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#25 (Williamsburg) Mon/Thur @8pm, starts May 10 (just 1 slot left) (1/2 price = $150)

Rowing Workshop -- Saturday, May 15th

Tuesday 100504


Five rounds, each for time of:
20 Pull-ups
30 Push-ups
40 Sit-ups
50 Squats

Rest precisely three minutes between each round.

Post times to comments.

Compare to 100102.

CFBK Strength Preference: CF Football

Complete the following sprints:

2 x 100 Meter Sprints (rest 45 secs between efforts)
Rest 45 seconds then...
4 x 50 Meter Sprints (rest 30 secs between efforts)
Rest 30 seconds then...
8 x 20 Meter Sprints (rest 15 secs between efforts)

*Perform at full effort

Post times of fastest 20 meter sprint.


I left a white Timex watch at the gym about 2 weeks ago.

Has anyone seen it sitting around? All white, rubber band.

Let me know! Thank you!

Slightly behind and just heard about the closing. Even though I haven't come by in awhile, I'm sorry to hear that the day has been set. There are a lot of really good memories tied up in that place, especially that first summer of grassroots construction.

I won't bore anyone beyond echoing what the rest of the original crew has said. It is certainly a loss to the NYCF community.

Barbara "34:01"

I just now got a chance to read through all of yesterday's and the day before's comments, and I wanted to put in a good word for the Manhattan location.

Give us a try before you decide. We are a different vibe and different type of space for sure, but there are a lot of great people here.

(And even if you don't decide to join, I'd love it if you keep reading--or start reading--our blog. I do my best every day to curate content from the interwebs to keep our readers abreast of all that is going on in the fitness/nutrition/health realm, along with interesting forays into everything from neuroscience to philosophy.)

I was never a big part of the CFBK community because I was full-time admin/teacher in Manhattan and then part-time admin & instructor (while also developing my own personal training business so I could keep myself in business, as it were).

However, that being said, I've always been a CFBK admirer from afar. That one month that our Manhattan location existed out of the BK location--back when there were no lights, no water, no useable bathroom--I taught a bunch of the classes and saw the first glimmers of community growing.

I would have loved to train out there myself since then but in the meantime I've lived in various outer-borough locations that made getting to Williamsburg a major hassle. With clients and teaching responsibilities in Manhattan, I've always done my own training at the Manhattan Box just to keep my life simpler and to save time.

Nonetheless, I have fond memories of that BK Halloween party and am glad that I got to meet and know so many of the CFBKers at Rest Day dinners and the like.

If/when there is a going-away bash, please do let me know.


Wanted to (belatedly) weigh in on this conversation. I haven't been a regular at the BBB for some time, but I did spend quite a bit of time there in its early days. In fact, I was the first person in this crowd to have ever set foot in the BBB.

When I found that space, we were under extreme duress. We had just gotten kicked out of our first Manhattan box, had just packed the entire contents of that box into the back of a Uhaul, and then had just dropped the Uhaul in a parking lot without a clue in the world about when we'd be picking it back up.

At that point, Justin joked that when the Uhaul drove off, he figured that was the last he'd be seeing of CFNYC.

We didn't give up that easily. We scrambled like crazy motherfuckers, and I somehow managed to convince the owner of the 817 Metropolitan garage (literally the 42nd space I saw in three days) to let us take it, without insurance in place or a lease longer than three pages, on 24 hours notice.

I suspect that was mainly because the garage was a shit-hole. But miraculously, through the very hard work of many of our trainers and members, we built it into something that looked and felt and worked like a real box.

After a few months of searching, we found another Manhattan space. Our intention had initially been to close the temporary BBB space as we moved back. But our members really loved that garage, and we thought that we might be able to build a real business there. We knew it was less than an ideal space, in a less than ideal location. But we were already there, and we had already all put in so much effort.

So, we moved back to Manhattan, and, at the same time, we kept Brooklyn open.

Driven by word of mouth, Manhattan started to grow. And grow. Brooklyn, for some reason, didn't.

We outgrew our way into yet another Manhattan space, but the membership in Brooklyn stayed largely stagnant, barely inching up each quarter.

In the beginning, we were charging the same rate in both locations. So we lowered the BBB rates. And lowered them again. We cut out Elements. We put Elements back in at a lower price. We did flyering. We bought newspaper ads. We bought equipment. We added classes. We listened to our coaches and members in meeting after meeting after meeting.

Everybody knew that the BBB was losing money. But we committed to pushing forward, still trying to figure out anything that might work.

[Quick sidebar: the one thing we discovered that actually did seem to make an impact on membership numbers was Torch. I suspect this is largely because Torch is awesome. Unfortunately for us, he also apparently wants to shoot people. A huge gain for the Marines and our country as a whole, but a huge loss for the BBB.]

From the very beginning, our coaches and members told us that our biggest problem, the thing that was keeping us from achieving our Williamsburg potential, was the space itself. They told us, time and again, in no uncertain terms, that we simply couldn't continue to grow unless we found a bigger, nicer space. A place that retained some of the BBB's 'unique' charms, but that also looked (to quote a Williamsburg friend, who, despite being a state-champ wrestler back in Ohio, is afraid to come to the Box) less like a medieval torture chamber.

So, we started looking for new locations. This was a little over a year ago. In our many searches prior, we've discovered it take 6-12 months, minimally, to find a new space. Landlords don't want a gym. We don't want most of the spaces that landlords are willing to give us. The zoning is always wrong. Many of the spaces needed months of time to apply for a CofO, for a variance for the Physical Culture Establishment license, etc., etc.

So, we were very excited when we discovered the space at Berry and N 4th. Up until about a week and a half ago, we sincerely believed we were moving into that new space. For legal and financial reasons, the deal fell through. Such is the world of real estate. However, the loss of that space screwed us. Even if we started looking right now for a new space, and even if the stars aligned, we wouldn't be able to move into the new space for at least another six months.

So we were left with a terrible choice. And, in short, while we had been willing to lose money, month after month, with the Berry and 4th space (and its new growth potential) in sight, we simply weren't willing to lose money indefinitely while we went back to the space search drawing boards.

I wanted to share all of this mostly because I assumed it was something that most of our Brooklyn members already knew. But, perhaps, that was our biggest error. With so many new faces in both locations, much of what I thought was obvious - that we were hemmorhaging money in Brooklyn, that we were desperately searching for a new space, etc. - apparently wasn't.

So, first, apologies for screwing that up. Given that wrong assumption, I can clearly see why many of you would feel blindsided by the decision. Certainly, losing the space, and having to make this choice, was a surprise to us, too. But it was a surprise in context, and one that would be far more shocking without the background.

So again, apologies. Hope the background gives us a basis for discussion.
Obviously, we love CrossFit - you don't start a company like this, and dump in hundreds of thousands of dollars because you think it's a fast way to retire to the Bahamas. And we know you, like all of our trainers and members, love Crossfit, too.

As Court has said, we're trying to schedule a time when anyone interested can come meet live, as a group, to talk through the details of the Brooklyn closing, what it might take to spin the BBB off as a free-standing non-profit affiliate, etc., etc. And, in the meantime, if anyone wants to track me down directly, I'm easily accessible:, or 917.669.2931.

But, in short, apologies again if we communicated this decision in less than the ideal way. It was a hard one to make.

as rxed

I'm slightly behind on the news as well and was sad to hear about BBB's closing today.

Even though I've been at the Manhattan box and haven't been able to pay a visit to BK in a while, I was one of the many beginners that first summer when the box was new and the trainers were not being paid, but the trainers were the most passionate I had ever seen. It was one of the best experiences of my life. And it was what got me hooked on CrossFit.

It will definitely be a sad day when the doors close.

29:24 rx'ed

4:14, 5:01, 5:53, 6:09, 6:35 - 27:52 rx'd

Barbara Rx'd

Side note on new spaces-

I was at the Autumn Bowl (skate spot) last night in Greenpoint- which is extremely dirty and down a scary alley BUT has 50 foot ceilings and is a massive space- rent is only 5,000 a month there. I'm sure there are similar options in the neighborhood cause of all that was industry at one point and most are abandoned.

Not as expensive as Williamsburg but just a couple blocks away- may be something to look into.


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